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What You Don\u2019t Know Can Hurt You (And Your Dog)<\/h1>\n

By Sean O’Shea<\/h1>\n

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Propaganda is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of a population toward some cause or position.<\/p>\n

Propaganda is information that is not impartial and used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively (perhaps lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or using loadedmessages to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information presented.<\/p>\n

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A few days ago I posted a fairly detailed training video featuring our recent work with Gus, a 125 pound aggressive Tibetan Mastiff. The video chronicled both the owner\u2019s journey as well as ours. <\/p>\n

At the beginning of the video we shared how the owner had already sent Gus to multiple trainers around the country, and although they had professed to be equipped to deal with serious behavior issues, they weren\u2019t able to help Gus or his mom. (One trainer even had to have Gus picked up the same day he had been dropped off for a multiple week board and train because his behavior was so overwhelming.) So his mom was understandably nervous and skeptical about trying another trainer. But she was also having to contemplate some rather dire choices regarding Gus\u2019 future if there weren\u2019t some answers to be found. <\/p>\n

Later in the video we detailed Gus\u2019s behavior when he arrived \u2013 growling, multiple bite attempts \u2013 as well as our training approach. We listed the tools (prong collar, e-collar, dominant dog collar etc) and our approach\/methodology\/thought process. <\/p>\n

The goal of sharing a video with all this detail is manifold. One is to give owners with serious dogs hope about the possibilities out there. Another is to advocate for\/make others aware of the tools and methods we\u2019ve seen in direct hands-on experience that have helped transform dogs and empower their owners. And lastly, to give tangible information about the process so others trainers and owners can leverage our experience to help advance their understanding, techniques and success. <\/p>\n

So we shared the video yesterday and received a bunch of awesome responses and praise. A lot of it was for Gus\u2019 owner not giving up on him and continuing to look for answers, and others were simply uplifted by the video showing the challenges of a troubled dog \u2013 especially one with Gus\u2019 history and danger potential due to sheer physical size \u2013 finding some real help. <\/p>\n

And then in the comments under the video I received this from Ashlee R:
\n\u201cThis is disgusting. He had a distrustful aggressive dog in an unfamiliar situation and STARTS with an ECOLLAR?! Then forcibly crate trains (crate training is supposed to be slow, and an enjoyable and safe process for the dog). Even when he is walking and working on \u2018heel\u2019 not ONCE does he reward the dog for heeling. He just says the word and ignores the dog. This is not relationship-building positive dog training. This poor dog is being emotionally suppressed. It\u2019s called learned helplessness. That is not training. He will be returned to his owner with more problems than ever before. This \u2018trainer\u2019 needs to stop. He\u2019s seen one too many episodes of the dog whisperer and has an incredibly uneducated, archaic and inhumane methodology for dealing with dogs. As an animal behaviorist certificated from positive and scientifically backed methodologies, this makes me very sad. If you think that this is dog training, I suggest you research what actual canine ecologists and evolutionary biologists have to say on the subject. Find a methodology backed my professionals that have PHDs in canine behavior. Google Ian Dunbar, Sophia yin, ray coppinger, Patricia McConnell and more. This is just pop science that does more damage than good. Remember, the dog whisperer is a TV show. It is edited. They pick and choose the dogs that go on air. Real animal behaviorist would have a field day with all of the things this man is doing incorrectly.\u201d<\/p>\n

Now here\u2019s the thing, I get this message ALL the time! Yes, the names change, and the order or a few of the details are different, but all in all, this is a sort of copy and paste propaganda comment\/message\/email. They all tend to say about the same thing. The dog is being suppressed. Learned helplessness is occurring. This isn\u2019t science based training. This is dark ages stuff. This is abuse. The inevitable Cesar Millan references. The dog is only responding because he\u2019s afraid. The dog will be a ticking time bomb and be returned home in worse shape then he arrived. And then of course there will be a list of revered trainers\/behaviorists\/doctors that should be studied\/followed instead. <\/p>\n

Me and every trainer I know that is doing great work, real work, saving dogs lives and transforming real problems receives this email or message, or some form of it, all the time. <\/p>\n

And typically I just ban and delete this stuff. It doesn\u2019t even register anymore. But as I was reading this particular message I realized I was incensed. Not for me and my work, or the Gus video, but for you. You the dog owning public. You the folks with troubled dogs, trying to make sense of all the conflicting information. Trying to make informed decisions for your dog through the morass of rhetoric, mudslinging, and fear mongering. Trying to make decisions that could ultimately be the difference between your dog staying in your home or being re-homed, getting help with issues or staying stuck in them, and of course, even life or death. <\/p>\n

I don\u2019t intend to be dramatic, but when you\u2019re dealing with real dog issues \u2013 serious reactivity, resource guarding, separation anxiety, dog aggression, human aggression etc \u2013 not finding suitable and effective answers can mean dire outcomes. <\/p>\n

So this is why I\u2019m writing this. There\u2019s a battle being waged currently in the dog world. A battle where the Purely Positive\/Force Free folks purport your dog\u2019s welfare to be the priority, but the reality is unfortunately something very different. It\u2019s a battle that prioritizes dogma over dogs. Ideology over actual welfare. Agenda over answers. It\u2019s a weird thing to see a large group of folks, who present themselves as dog lovers, leading a charge that ignores tangible reality in favor of a belief system, and sacrifices dogs in the name of science and academia and supposed higher morals. <\/p>\n

But here\u2019s the thing, you\u2019ll never see these folks \u2013 not the well-respected and highly-lauded trainer\/authors, not the veterinary behaviorists, none of these folks with credentials coming out their ears \u2013 show real-life work and real-life results with truly challenging dogs. It simply doesn\u2019t exist. They can\u2019t show results. They never have. Not with serious dogs. <\/p>\n

You have to ask yourself why this is? <\/p>\n

This is maybe the most important piece of information to take from this post. The glaring absence of results, the absence of evidence. <\/p>\n

And in this day and age of everyone having a video camera on their phone, if these folks and their methods are so revolutionary, if they work so well, if they\u2019re so cutting edge, so humane, so scientifically stunning, how come they don\u2019t have any evidence showing all this great work? <\/p>\n

Because it\u2019s all talk. Convenient, well-crafted, smart-sounding, intellectually stimulating, brain-twisting, heart-tugging talk. Talk that is based on manipulating data and cherry picking the science that supports their cause, while ignoring that which doesn\u2019t. Talk that is completely devoid of reality and results, as well as true care, for dogs or owners. (The knowledge of Pure Positive\/Force Free trainers recommending even mildly challenging dogs to be put down is legendary, and heart breaking in the dog training world.)<\/p>\n

So I write this to help you folks out there who are trying to make sense of this stuff. The folks who show up here after having spent tons of money and time on methods and tools that haven\u2019t yielded any results. Those of you who have heard only horror stories about prong collars and e-collars, and how correcting your dog will create more aggression and compromise your relationship. Or those of you that have never heard about us, or trainers like us, or balanced methods and tools. People who aren\u2019t even aware of these possibilities or options, and who end up suffering unnecessarily or putting their dogs down or re-homing them simply because they haven\u2019t had the luxury of information. <\/p>\n

I write this not to drum up business or celebrate our training victories, but to simply do my part to try to tell the truth. To try to balance out the imbalance of the rhetoric. There\u2019s a battle going on for sure. My goal is to try to help share information and results and to pass that help on to you. I don\u2019t care if you hire us, hire someone across the country, train your dog yourself, or even if you prefer the Purely Positive approach. (It\u2019s actually great for training certain behaviors, teaching new things, and can be helpful for cupcake dogs.) My goal isn\u2019t to get you to buy-in to my method and approach or even balanced training as an approach. My only goal is that you have the luxury of all the information out there, that you get to see all sides of the story fairly presented, so you can make a decision that is informed and that resonates with you. A decision that isn\u2019t based solely on cleverly-worded propaganda. Propaganda that leverages the PERCEPTION of science and academia while ignoring real-life results and real-life success. I want you to be able to make whatever decision feels right and makes sense, but I want you to have both sides of the story before doing so. <\/p>\n

The propaganda machine has been doing an awesome job of trying to shame and scare those (both trainers and owners) that use a balanced approach into hiding, into being afraid to tell their stories of success. They use fear to scare owners \u2013 that you will destroy your dog and your relationship, or that you\u2019re just a bad person. They use fear to scare trainers \u2013 they show up in hordes on trainer\u2019s FB pages and blast them for being cruel and barbaric. They spread information all across the Internet about how barbaric these tools and trainers are. (Who hasn\u2019t seen the famous embedded prong collar picture that is supposed to show the damage a prong collar can do to a dog in training \u2013 meanwhile that was a prong collar that was left on a dog for months, if not years to create the same results embedded harnesses and flat collars create.)<\/p>\n

I typically try to steer clear of the controversy and madness, but felt it necessary to jump in here. It makes my blood boil every time I see dogs and owners struggling and being sold a bill of goods that aren\u2019t helping them. Ultimately the decision is up to you. And like I said earlier, I\u2019m okay with whatever decision you make \u2013 really, I am. I just want to make sure you\u2019re aware of all the information out there, and are able to weigh it and process it and then come to whatever decision feels right for you and your dog. <\/p>\n

I guess the entire point of this blog post is just to make sure that dog owners are aware that the propaganda machine is at work. That there is a movement and agenda that is out there working overtime to affect your feelings and choices, and that this movement cares more about its movement than it does you or your dog. So just make sure you\u2019re an informed consumer, and not being swept along a river you didn\u2019t even know was trying to pull you and your dog in. <\/p>\n

P.S. And for those who have been following Gus\u2019s story, ironically yesterday when I posted the Gus video his mom also sent a detailed update email (he\u2019s been home for a good chunk of time now) later that day. Here it is for those that might be curious about what was said earlier in this post (learned helplessness, fear training, suppression, and ticking time bombs never looked so good!), and to give you a different perspective, the owner\u2019s perspective:<\/p>\n

Hi guys,
\nThis is long overdue but have been very busy here at work. We are seasonal so the summer season is 24\/7 for us until October.
\nI don\u2019t know where to start, and how to express the amazing transformation of my world with gus, but here it goes.
\nWhen we left Los Angeles, we drove straight through to Abq, 13 1\/2 hrs. We stopped for a couple of potty breaks, and never had to use the e collar. He heeled like a cream puff.
\nWe checked into our hotel, The Marriott in Abq. and entered into the elevator. (This is the first time he has ever been in an elevator) I was ready to pop him if he made any moves, and then the door opened on the floor just before ours. We were standing in the corner of the elevator when 3 men entered. I broke out into a sweat, but Gus, he paid no attention to the strangers who entered into this small box with him and his mom. The men just admired how well behaved Gus was. As we arrived on our floor, I let out a big sigh of relief. I was so proud of him. I placed a towel at the foot of my bed on the floor for him to place and sleep all night. He slept with his collar on just in case. When I woke up the next morning, he didn\u2019t move at all!
\nWhen we arrived in Red River, our home, I got right to work. No days off, no resting, no play days.
\nI wasn\u2019t sure how he would react once back at home, if he would test me, ignore my commands or what. We practiced our recall for 20 minutes in the house. I had to pop him a couple of times, but got him back into place. He\u2019s fully aware that I have the power now, and he has to obey me.
\nAt this time, I didn\u2019t have a crate that he could fit it, so I contained him the living room. I know I know. While I was out of the house,
\nI put him in his place command position on his bed, (Not mine) and hours later he was still on his bed.
\nDay 2, we walked 2 1;2 miles up to the ranch. He was in again, a perfect heel. If he fell out of his heel, maybe a head forward or behind, all I had to say was heel, and he adjusted without a pop.
\nWhen we arrrived at the ranch, we went to the meadow, and practiced recall. Excellent! We did this for maybe 30 minutes. I was about 50 ft away from him and
\nmost times he didn\u2019t move until called. I am so estatic with this, because before training, when I called for him, he would just look at me and ignore me. Now I have
\ncontrol over him on recall. We do this every day, You would be so proud of both of us.
\nI am so proud of his improvement when walking him. People around town have noticed a tremendous difference in his behavior. When we walk, he looks up at me in a way
\nthat I have never seen before. It\u2019s like he\u2019s asking, OK mom, what do you want me to do now! It just melts my heart.
\nHe doesn\u2019t charge the fence when dogs walk by, he doesn\u2019t go crazy in the car when dogs go by. (All stuff he used to do!)
\nTwo nights ago, I brought him out to the lobby of the hotel\/restaurant. I was very careful and very aware of his posture, demeanor around everybody. I told him to place and he remained there. It just keeps getting better and better. I don\u2019t know how to thank you for literally saving Gus\u2019s life, and mine. I am eternally grateful to you and your wonderful staff for not giving up on Gus, when others did.
\nFor those of you who think you cannot leave your precious baby for 3 weeks at this facility for board and train, it will be the most difficult thing you will have to go through. You think, oh my god, my dog has never ever been away from me, he won\u2019t survive. He will and so will you. If you have any hesitation because of this, please do your dog and yourself justice, let Sean and his team help you. You will not regret it.
\nI can go on and on but I think I\u2019ve said enough for now.
\nI will be taking videos of our walks and sending them to you.
\nAlso, I have asked a few friends of mine to write a couple of testimonials on Gus.
\nKeep up the incredible work, you have saved and changed so many lives, I wish there were more people out there who cared as much as you do.
\nLove to Sean and the team
\nPriscilla<\/p>\n

PS Can I use the e collar forever, and how long do they last?
\nSean O’Shea
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